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Thranduil clips

Posted on 2013.12.16 at 22:55
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Lee Pace did a fantastic job of playing Thranduil. I'm really enjoying this characterization of him. Here are some clips, including some I haven't seen before. Check out the out-take where Tauriel gives Thranduil the finger (deservedly so).


spiced_wine at 2013-12-17 10:09 (UTC) (Link)
I'm really enjoying this characterization of him.

Yes, so am I. :) I have seen that behinds the scenes with Tauriel, but it makes me smile.
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-17 18:44 (UTC) (Link)
As I think about it, I'm finding Thranduil's characterization the most compelling of the adaptations, possibly because he's so, well as I said before, fey. He's out there and wounded and interesting.
spiced_wine at 2013-12-17 18:54 (UTC) (Link)
possibly because he's so, well as I said before, fey. He's out there and wounded and interesting.

That's it, exactly. Even though we saw relatively little of him, we could still see all that.
Thranduil Oropherion Redux aka Randy
randy_o at 2013-12-17 17:01 (UTC) (Link)
Three thousand years old? Eh???? Technically possible, since Darth Fingon wrote him that young, but I kind of wish that Walsh and Boyens would give their actors better information about the History of Middle-earth, especially if this dude is old enough to have been flamed by a dragon.

That scene in Erebor from the EE intrigues me. What IS Thranduil seeing in that chest and reacting to? Thingol's treasure pulled out of the river and now held by the Dwarves? That would tick me off too.

The jacuzzi made me laugh.
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-17 18:51 (UTC) (Link)
Well, yeah, he's got to be at least 3,000 years old. Let's see, he had to have been old enough to go to war with Dad during the Last Alliance in the S.A., so let's say at least 100. There's 11 years before S.A. ends, then the time of The Hobbit is T.A. 2941. As far as flamed by a dragon I don't think that's going to be a F.A. battle. In the movie,Thranduil says something which I didn't catch about a battle in the north, I'm guessing in the Grey Hills or around the Withered Heath. The dragons reappear there around T.A. 2570 and Dain I is killed by one some years later. I used that info in my story Swords & Seduction.

I was really intrigued by that scene in the EE too. I haven't seen the EE yet. Looks like the white gems that he refers to in DoS. My guess? They have something to do with healing and he needs them either for himself or for healing his realm from Sauron's incursion. Or both.
Just a guess.

The jacuzzi was funny. I really enjoyed seeing Pace and Lilly messing around like that. I appreciated that interview with Lee Pace you posted talking about the Fisher King. Gave me respect for Mr. Pace.

Edited at 2013-12-17 07:01 pm (UTC)
Thranduil Oropherion Redux aka Randy
randy_o at 2013-12-17 19:07 (UTC) (Link)
Depends on how you interpret the Appendix entry about how some Elves traveled east to found new realms in the Second Age and that Thranduil was 'one of these'. Semantics for sure. I fudge it so that Thranduil is on the journey (barely) while Oropher founds the realm. Some people write him going all the way back to Doriath, so that's 6,000 or more. Darth had him just come of age when he and his father depart for the Last Alliance, hence totally unprepared to become King.

He mentions white gems in DoS? I will probably have to break down and buy the DVD, then the EE eventually.
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-17 23:56 (UTC) (Link)
Right, well he's quite likely older than 3,000, maybe much older, depending on the interpretation. I'm hoping to get the EE of H1 for Christmas.
Thranduil Oropherion Redux aka Randy
randy_o at 2013-12-18 00:26 (UTC) (Link)
I roll my eyes when I hear the actors make statements like this, because I know they've most likely been given their info by the director or screenwriters, and then I wonder if the screenwriters are the Tolkien experts they're claimed to be. Both Pace and Lilly have said Thranduil is 3,000 years old now, and Lilly and Bloom give conflicting information on how old Legolas is. (Answer to that is, Tolkien said not a word about Legolas and his age. There's less to go on than what one might extrapolate about Thranduil.)

I'm not surprised Stephen Colbert kicked Philippa Boyens' butt at Tolkien knowledge. LOL

Maybe I'll get some DVDs next summer for my 65th birthday. All I can do is hint very heavily.
Thranduil Oropherion
scarlet1061 at 2013-12-19 15:38 (UTC) (Link)
May I point your attention to Thranduil's bio on SWG?
While a revised version should soon be published (I hope), still, I assume there, based on conflicting texts, that Thranduil was born sometime around the 1st age (which makes him very old).
As for Legolas, I haven't seen DoS yet, so I don't know what's been said there, but I think I remember an essay assuming him about 500 or so. Still young in Elven terms, but old enough to have seen "turns of life cycles of oaks", to paraphrase his words in LOTR once or twice.
Thranduil Oropherion Redux aka Randy
randy_o at 2013-12-19 17:41 (UTC) (Link)
Like I say -- I fudge it by having him born on Oropher's journey east so as to conform with the statements in Tolkien's writing about Thranduil. But even so, he is very old at the time of The Hobbit. As for bios, I take them as secondary source, just like the Atlas of Middle-earth. The authors are just doing the best they can, based on the same text we all read. Does Thranduil really remember Menegroth or has he just listened to Daddy reminiscing? At least that's how I parse it.

As for what Fran Walsh or Philippa Boyens told Lee Pace -- I will quote that GIF. "This is how many fucks I give." LOL

I've read that essay about Legolas too and found it convincing. But it's just one of the interpretations.
chaotic_binky at 2013-12-17 17:58 (UTC) (Link)
Loved the outtake with Tauriel giving Thranduil the finger lol
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-17 18:52 (UTC) (Link)
That was funny.
sian265 at 2013-12-17 18:43 (UTC) (Link)
Awesome, thanks so much for sharing!
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-17 18:53 (UTC) (Link)
You're welcome.
aglarien1 at 2013-12-19 04:41 (UTC) (Link)
Love the behind the scenes clips! Thanks for sharing.
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-19 19:31 (UTC) (Link)
You're welcome. They are fun.
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