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Desolation of Smaug. Verdict? A Fantastic Romp

Posted on 2013.12.13 at 16:48
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Sometimes the universe gives us little gifts. I was sad that no one I know could see Hobbit 2 until sometime next week. Monday possibly. So, I’d resolved to go see it alone this morning. 9 a.m. showing. Then Wednesday one of my bestest buddies called me to say that she's in town. She flew in that day from where she now resides in Denver because she’s working on fixing up her house here for sale. After the enthusiastic greeting, I asked, "Can you take even a little time off to go play?" She replied, "What do you have in mind?" I said, "Let’s go see The Hobbit together." She was tempted, mulled it over and last night called to say yes, she could do it. Yay!!

We arrived around 8:45 a.m. and sailed right into our local IMAX theater to see it in 3D. This is the way to do it, chickies. Go at a time when no one else would go. We got the perfect seats right in the middle of the theater. By the time the previews started, it was actually about half full. The previews disturbed me since every new film seemed to be an army flick with death and destruction and high body counts, either that or superhero flicks with death, destruction and high body counts. Saw previews for Spider Man 2 and Captain America. I wonder when audiences will get tired of people who can fly without wings. LOL. But they looked fun. And omg the new Godzilla film. Caught a glimpse of the monster. Incredible!

The drawback about going in the a.m. was a subdued audience. I missed the cheers and camaraderie that, no doubt, existed in that same theater the night before. However, from the minute it started with PJ's little reprising cameo at Bree there, I was swept back into Middle-earth.

Let me just say that one has to let go of the notion that this story is going to resemble our beloved childhood tale in any but superficial aspects like characters and an overall storyline. This is fanfic, pure and simple. I was reminded as I sat there, enthralled, that most movies say that they are “adapted” from the book. Yep. That's what it is -- an adaptation.


The movie begins with a brief prologue earlier in time when Gandalf meets up with Thorin in Bree and sets him on the quest to reclaim his kingdom. From there we jump back to where the last movie left off. Bilbo is scouting ahead and spots both orcs on his trail as well as a huge bear. The action is virtually non-stop from there–like a videogame or a Disney ride. But with much better visuals. One of the things I do like is that PJ, Fran, and Philippa keep characterization clearly in mind amidst all that action. There is a brief sojourn at Beorn’s. He doesn’t do much in his man-shape except let Gandalf know that orcs are multiplying and he hates orcs. One of the things Fran and Philippa do with the script is take Tolkien’s loose adventure tale and tighten up the reasons for why something happens and then put those reasons in front of us, instead of as backstory. In the book, Gandalf already knows about the Necromancer and he has a date set up with the White Council to oust him. The movie script shows us all the cause and effect as part of the action, even though it means deviating from the original.

From there we go to Mirkwood and the attack of the spiders – wonderfully visualized and really terrifying. Lots of events in the book are skipped including the dwarves stumbling onto the elves’ campfire and Bombur falling in the enchanted stream. The appearance of the elves and yay! our Legolas with vivid blue eyes definitely made my heart kick up a notch. Wonderful action sequence showing ol' Legs is still one bad-ass elf. Kinda fun to see him in his home turf before the events in LOTR, although his character seems harder and more mature than he was in LOTR. Of course Orlando has aged, even CGI doesn't change that, but his characterization has changed too. He seems a chip off the ol' block in his attitudes about foreigners. I really liked the addition of Tauriel -- and boy does she kick ass! In addition she added a kind, "human" touch in her interactions with Kili as a contrast to her ability to skewer orcs. For me, the whole “love triangle” with Kili and Legolas worked. And I loved the extensive use of elvish. I strongly suspect she'll be a catalyst for Thranduil helping the people of Esgaroth.
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Then the visualization of Thranduil’s realm--marvelous! Very elven with elements that hark to Lorien, but still an underground lair. For me, this movie is going right to my fanfic roots in that Dragon Fever and Swords & Seduction took place in Laketown and Mirkwood. One of the things that really struck me was how close Laketown was to the way I imagined it, but my envisioning of Thranduil’s palace could really have benefited from the Hobbit’s team of designers. Wow! The detail in all the sets is truly wonderful.

the hobbit thranduils hall

Thranduil fans (I include myself here) may not care for his characterization: very fey and zenophobic. Very fey. Nevertheless, as a fanfic interpretation, I’m going to buy it. The scene between him and Thorin crackled, full of tension. Lee Pace ate up the screen and I wanted lots more of him. My guess is he’ll get redeemed in the third movie as this is Fran and Philippa’s modus operandi. To give characters space for growth, they start from a place that is less than perfect or admirable.

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Again, the action moves along quickly. No long haunting of the Elvenking’s Halls for Bilbo, stealing food and listening at cracks while he wears the Ring. And btw, interesting that they use Bilbo's sense that the Ring is, well, something to be avoided, to create a logical reason why he takes it off when he does. Tauriel and Kili only have a brief moment to connect while Kili is in his cell, (and that was a good scene) before Bilbo grabs the keys and off they go. The ride down the Forest River while chased both by orcs and elves is hugely fun, even though you have to suspend your belief in physics. (Even more true in the Lonely Mountain scenes.)

Meanwhile of course, there is the other thread of Gandalf and Radagast first going to investigate the Witch-King's tomb when he discovers he's busted out, so the Nine have again arisen and then Gandalf going to Dol Guldur. Suitably creepy and hair-raising. Both my friend and I actually did jump and scream at one point. LOL. Definitely, the 3D this time was a kick. However, I'm don't see the need to visit the Witch-King's tomb. It seems that we have quite enough villains for movie III without bringing back the Chief Nazgul. I loved the visualization of Sauron.

Bard arrives on the scene, and imho his whole characterization is better (gasp) than in the book. In the book, he just sort of appears, for several pages as the grim-voiced man who foretells bad futures, then keeps his wits enough to organize the defense of Esgaroth from the dragon’s assault. In the movie, Bard’s role is expanded. He takes on the Aragorn role, the scruffy looking guy forced to smuggle to make a living, living by his wits, but with a hero’s heart. His ancestor Girion from Dale failed to kill the dragon with one of the black arrows (shot not from a bow, but more of a high-powered harpoon), and Bard has carefully kept the only remaining bolt. So he’s set up (very similarly to Aragorn in the LOTR films) to be tested when the dragon arrives. Of course he’s the only one who stands up to the Master, when everyone else is understandably tempted by Thorin's promise of the vast wealth of Erebor flowing through their currently impoverished town. I liked the way they portrayed Bard quite a lot. Enjoyed seeing Stephen Fry as the greedy Master. Hope he has more opportunity to shine in TH3. And I liked the mixed racial makeup of Laketown.

THE-HOBBIT Bard

The fact that a small group of four dwarves stay in Laketown, one oversleeps and Kili stays because he's wounded and Thorin tell him to. Umm, okay. I suspect their valor with the dragon will help the dwarves' plight with the townspeople and enable them to show up in a timely fashion at the Battle of Five Armies.

The scene where the dwarves attempt to open the secret door is altered in that it’s Bilbo, who does not give up hope, when all the others do. (And btw, I loved how the passageway up to the door is cleverly disguised.)

May I digress to say that Martin Freeman is just fantastic. He’s the Bilbo at the end of the first movie, the one who’s found his courage enough to fight orcs and stand up to a dragon. Martin Freeman is such a good actor. There were so many little moments when he manages to be both comic and touching. I’ll have to go back to see the movie to savor them.

And then of course there’s Smaug. OMFG! There has never been a better cinematic dragon. Ever! The CGI - good lord! He is the perfect huge, slithery, cobra-like creature, with the beguiling voice. A wonderful villain, gorgeously visualized. And Benedict Cumberbatch’s voice is pitch perfect. However, movie Smaug is black, not red-gold, although there is a moment, well, I won't give it away. I could have wished that the riddling part of his and Bilbo’s confrontation had gone on longer. But then again, several critics said they thought it went on too long. Goes to show, I’d rather have clever, sparring conversation, than lots of death-defying falls from high places, but that’s just me, apparently.

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I approve of the scenes where the dwarves descend into Erebor and confront Smaug, even though we were once-again in Implausible-Gravity-Defying-Videogame Land. But the scenes gave the dwarves more to do than in the original story. It made the conflict between Thorin and Smaug palpable, and it enabled Thorin to show his heroism. Plus, that forge room was marvelous.

A warning for those who haven’t seen it, the movie ends on a huge, mother-fing cliffhanger. I mean, I figured, but damn . . .

So, all in all, I was hugely entertained and forgive PJ and company for screwing liberally with the original story. PJ does know how to make a movie. When it ended there was dead silence in the theater as people sat there awed, and then my friend said in a loud whisper, “Well, that was just fantastic!” Agreed.
I’m happy to discuss all the ins and outs with y’all.

Comments:


Oshun
heartofoshun at 2013-12-14 00:10 (UTC) (Link)
Not sure if we can get in this weekend. Probably can't. We had a hellva time getting near to release dates for the last big movie (Thor II, I think, took three tries). We are unable to buy them in advance and have to try the day of. This is one of the things about seeing big movies in NYC. Either buy tickets far in advance or wait a couple of weeks. Alex and I are doing it though as soon as we can.

I have not lowered my expectations. I have turned them off completely. Not the movie I wanted. So now that I have accepted that I can relax and enjoy it like any other movie that Alex likes more than I do.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 00:27 (UTC) (Link)
Hiya Oshun. I thought you guys were going today? Guess it all depends. I imagine that when the kids and I finally all can get together, it'll be packed.

It's not the book, but we all knew that. I think they've improved it in some ways, not in others. It's fanfic. I think you'll enjoy it.
Oshun
heartofoshun at 2013-12-14 00:29 (UTC) (Link)
We have an unexpected guest for tonight and tomorrow. We might have planned to go tonight; I do not even remember now. This is why we can never plan in advance!
pandemonium_213
pandemonium_213 at 2013-12-14 01:44 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, good! This is such an encouraging review. Heck, I'd go just to see Martin Freeman and Lee Pace (both fabulous thespians) but what you describe is icing on the cake.

We're going tomorrow afternoon before the Big Snow™ arrives. I have tickets at our favorite venue: the cinema with recliners, a full menu, and cocktails! :^D
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 06:06 (UTC) (Link)
That sounds seriously like the way to see a movie. Enjoy!
Aglarien
aglarien1 at 2013-12-14 03:43 (UTC) (Link)
I'm on vacation early next week and will take myself to an early showing, then probably see it again on Christmas day. I did that last year. Have to go by myself, but the Tolkien will make me do that.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 06:07 (UTC) (Link)
You'll have a good time. Wish we could all go together. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
Aglarien
aglarien1 at 2013-12-14 06:12 (UTC) (Link)
That would be a total hoot!
Laurelin (who wants to be a spatula)
pilgrimskiss at 2013-12-14 08:11 (UTC) (Link)
My guess is he’ll get redeemed in the third movie as this is Fran and Philippa’s modus operandi. To give characters space for growth and change, they have to start from a place that is less than perfect or admirable.

Good point! I hope and pray that you are right. Movieverse!Thranduil has been described in the promotional materials as cold, angry and dark, due to the long and difficult life he's lived. By the end of TABA, I would like to see a lighter side of him. I can't wait to see what brings him out of his isolation.

I'm going to see it again tomorrow, by the way.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 17:58 (UTC) (Link)
Cold, angry, and dark, yes. I think Tauriel will be the vehicle for getting him and Legolas away from their fixed mindset. What dy'a wanna bet?

My kids have now changed their mind and want to go tonight to the 11:00 p.m. showing. I may have to take a nap. LOL
chaotic_binky
chaotic_binky at 2013-12-14 09:21 (UTC) (Link)
I am looking forward to seeing the film :) I enjoyed your review. I quite like cliffhangers :)
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 17:59 (UTC) (Link)
Glad you liked the review. I must have been in a mood to go with the flow. It's good that you like cliffhangers. LOL.
spiced_wine
spiced_wine at 2013-12-14 09:22 (UTC) (Link)
Yes, to all of this!

I loved Sauron's reveal, too, Gandalf's battle with him.

Thraduil was fey, very good word. I like that myself, as I tend to think of him and the Elves of the Mirkwood as quite fey. I would have liked to see more of him, but as you say Philipa Boyen's and PJ give their characters a journey, and we do know he changes, as does Legolas.

The forges! I am glad they gave Thorin a chance to go up against Smaug, as by then I wanted it. To just come to Erebor and not confront him, as happened in the book, would not have been satisfying for me.

“Well, that was just fantastic!” Agreed.

I said 'Well, wow!'

elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 18:03 (UTC) (Link)
Yes Gandalf's battle with Sauron. Gandalf reveals himself again as a powerful Maia, one who can battle with a Balrog. I wonder how Ian dealt with the physical demands of the role? He's no spring chicken.

I agree, I would have liked a lot more of Thranduil, something more satisfying somehow. The filmmakers are leading us to that. I have hope for the third movie.

Yes, to come all that way and not confront Thorin's nemesis wouldn't be as satisfying as what they did, even though, huh, all those aerial dynamics. Who knew that Thorin used to work in Cirque de Soleil?
spiced_wine
spiced_wine at 2013-12-14 18:12 (UTC) (Link)
Yes Gandalf's battle with Sauron. Gandalf reveals himself again as a powerful Maia, one who can battle with a Balrog

Actually, yes, seeing that I am not surprised he went against a balrog, even though he had to be 'sent back' from that.

I would have liked a lot more of Thranduil, something more satisfying somehow.

I know there are parts they cut; Bilbo was supposed to see Thranduil standing on the Elf path, which was definitely filmed, but may be in the EE. But as he has to change from some-one who's closing his kingdom off completely to fighting in the Battle of Five Armies, I hope there's a good bit of development.

Who knew that Thorin used to work in Cirque de Soleil?

Lol! Dwarves are said to be secretive. That must be one of them!
Kenaz
kenazfiction at 2013-12-15 00:31 (UTC) (Link)
I just got back from the theatre, I loved it, and I agree wholeheartedly with your entire assessment.

I loved Tauriel. I am surprised by how much. Even though her healing trance was positively erotic... but she's really attractive so I'm totally ok with that. Kili is adorable, so I was completely on board with the cross-species budding romance...but which has TRAGEDY! written all over it, of course... I doubt PJ would subvert canon enough to give them a happy ending, but makes me wonder if Tauriel will live through #3, either. Her "martyrdom" would certainly be dramatic, especially if it's in service of uniting Elves and Men and Dwarves, and would certainly serve as a potent catalyst for Legolas and Thranduil to change their mindset. But, still. :(

I thought Bard was a great expansion from the book, Stephen Fry is always a pleasure, Orlando looks old but Legolas is clearly having some teen-angst-daddy-issues, and Thranduil is FEY, FEY, FEY, FEY, FEY. I was giggling into my fist for some of his bits because he was so over the top CAMP, but I don't care, I *loved* it. But I'm dying to know what's behind the terrifying face-burn! I do hope they'll expand him a little bit in the 3rd film, and that we'll get to see Legolas evolve a little bit as well-- it's hard to imagine how Hobbit!Legolas transforms into the more light-hearted LOTR!Legolas.

And Smaug. Just... wow.

I think what I love most about the films is that they give me a sense of scope that my mind doesn't always achieve when I read. Everything is just so much bigger, deeper, darker, wilder...and then when I go back and re-read (or write), my mental images have so much more scope. It's just a pleasure to be in that world.

I wasn't a big Hobbit fan as a kid, and even as an adult it's not a story that really grabs me deeply, so I really have no qualms with PJ going all fanfic on it. I trust him to tell a good story, even if it's not quite the same story on the page.

That said, I did start snorting inappropriately during the Eye of Sauron bit, because it just made me think of this:


PS: Did you see Stephen Colbert's cameo in Laketown? I missed it!
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-15 02:54 (UTC) (Link)
I liked Tauriel too and truly I had no preconceived mindset about her, one way or the other. I didn't think of the healing trance as erotic, but now that you mention it . . . lol. Something to look forward to when I see it again. Yes, cross-culture romance with tragedy all over it. This is soooo fanfic, truly. But as we know there is such a thing as good fanfic. Yes, Legolas doesn't look the part he has to play, the younger, daddy-issues part (this is so like my story in Dragonfever - lol) but hey, he looks pretty good still.

Fey is the word for Thranduil. I'm okay with it, truly. If he were a wise and gracious and hospitable king, well what would happen to the tension in the story? Not to mention that that would really not be Hobbit canon. I think we're witnessing what I'm now calling a case of Faramir redux in which we see a character change due to the course of events.

Yes, scope and detail -- which is what all the work of lots of creative minds can do for a movie like this. I'm sure the set designers will get some kind of Oscar, if not, well, life's not fair.

Your gif there as eye of Sauron made me laugh. I liked the visualization of him as if he's still finding his form. I would have preferred my image of him in Elegy, um, just for the eye candy. But oh well, we can't have everything.

I missed Colbert's cameo. I read that he was in it, and then completely forgot about it. Another thing to check out.

Cheers! And nice to see you about.

Edited at 2013-12-15 03:01 am (UTC)
spiced_wine
spiced_wine at 2013-12-15 09:36 (UTC) (Link)
I think what I love most about the films is that they give me a sense of scope that my mind doesn't always achieve when I read. Everything is just so much bigger, deeper, darker, wilder...and then when I go back and re-read (or write), my mental images have so much more scope. It's just a pleasure to be in that world.

Oh, yes, absolutely. Thranduil's Halls were wonderful, and I have never read of them described like that, but now I certainly will write them like that. I mean I don't write them as poky caves, but the hugeness of them, the walkways that look like enormous tree branches, the lamps like chunks of quartz, the waterfalls - I will always see that now.

Her "martyrdom" would certainly be dramatic, especially if it's in service of uniting Elves and Men and Dwarves, and would certainly serve as a potent catalyst for Legolas and Thranduil to change their mindset. But, still. :(

I was wondering if that would happen. The Legolas in DoS would never join the Fellowship, nor would Thranduil even send him to Imladris, so something must happen to make these two open to the outside world. Though Legolas is outside at the moment. And looking pretty pissed off.

I only know Steven Colbert from GIF's on Tumblr, but I read he was one of the spies. Probably the kind of thing I would pick up watching the dvd.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-15 18:27 (UTC) (Link)
I hope they don't kill off Tauriel. There will be enough tragedy with the canon deaths of Thorin and Fili and Kili, but they might well kill her too. The thing about the movie messing with canon is that we can't predict what they did with the script. I guess that's another reason why PJ & Co. would change it up.
spiced_wine
spiced_wine at 2013-12-15 19:23 (UTC) (Link)
I hope they don't kill off Tauriel. There will be enough tragedy with the canon deaths of Thorin and Fili and Kili,

I think killing Tauriel would be a case or um...overkill, because as you say, there are the others. :\ But undoubtedly Elves will get killed in the battle, and PJ does effective death scenes (Boromir and Theoden, and although not quite the same, Aragorn when he is dead).
russandol
nelyo_russandol at 2013-12-14 09:41 (UTC) (Link)
Now you've made me desperate to see it. I'll bribe and blackmail everyone at home today. Hopefully we can go tonight or tomorrow. No 3D IMAX but better than nothing.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 18:04 (UTC) (Link)
I hope you like it. Sometimes it depends on the mood one is in when seeing it. As I said above, it looks like I might be seeing it again tonight -- unexpectedly.
engarian
engarian at 2013-12-14 11:59 (UTC) (Link)
I loved it and it was well worth working on 3 hours of sleep the next day. I can hardly wait to see it again and catch all of the things I let slide the first time or second or third or... well...you get it :-)

- Erulisse (one L)
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-14 18:06 (UTC) (Link)
That's what happened to me last year when I went to the midnight showing. Couldn't bring myself to do that this year. Yep, looking forward to seeing it again. Too much going on, and my poor brain can't take it all in.
Jaiden S
jaiden_s at 2013-12-14 22:41 (UTC) (Link)
I cannot wait to see this! It'll be at least another week, though. That's the downside of owning a store...you gotta be there this time of the year. :/
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-15 02:55 (UTC) (Link)
Definitely, this is a crazy time of year for traipsing off to see movies. It's looking like I won't be seeing it again this evening due to people's schedules, so I'm glad I got a chance to see it yesterday.
Enjoy!
Larien Elengasse
larienelengasse at 2013-12-15 17:36 (UTC) (Link)
I really liked Thranduil in this. That surprised me frankly. Of course I've always been a stalwart defender of that character, and given his history, and his current situation, I understand the xenophobia. He's got good reason to mistrust, particularly dwarves. I loved the Orc interrogation & it's conclusion. That was definitely Thranduil as I have always seen him. Plus, he ain't hard to look at.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-15 19:24 (UTC) (Link)
He ain't hard to look at for sure. I enjoyed his portrayal too. I think if I were invested in a set characterization for all these characters I wouldn't have enjoyed so many different versions in fanfic the way I have. I was surprised that he did in the orc, as was, apparently, Legolas.
Larien Elengasse
larienelengasse at 2013-12-15 21:39 (UTC) (Link)
That's funny. I knew the moment he said he'd let it go that he was lying. I was shaking my head and saying NO FRIGGIN WAY is that orc seeing the outside of that throne room ever again. That's because he is not one to be f$#ked with. Ha!
phyncke
phyncke at 2013-12-15 18:32 (UTC) (Link)
Woo! This was a great post! I really enjoyed the movie even though I do feel that PJ is deep into his own fan fic version of the story now. There were things I wanted to see that they did not do but all in all, I was riveted by the film. Loved!
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-15 19:21 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks. Yep, it's PJ & Co. fanfic. That's okay. And I'm sure they've got more in the EE edition. The whole thing is marketing 101. I feel more optimistic that TH3 is going to be really good. I'm sure it will include a lot about the tragedy of war over jewels.
lenine2
lenine2 at 2013-12-22 01:18 (UTC) (Link)
I saved this to read until after I saw the movie. I *loved* Thranduil, really liked the "older" and more tough Legolas, Bard, OMG Smaug, and even liked Tauriel.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-22 07:11 (UTC) (Link)
I'm glad you enjoyed the movie. Our opinions of it seem to coincide. I could feel myself really appreciating PJ & Co.'s rendition of Thranduil, even enough to think of writing fanfic, but I probably won't. I do have an issue with the videogame aspects of it and really wish the Bilbo/Smaug encounter had more of the original book version in it, you know the dueling dialogue. But overall, I enjoyed the movie. I saw it again a couple days ago.
lenine2
lenine2 at 2013-12-22 19:20 (UTC) (Link)
enough to think of writing fanfic, but I probably won't.

Is there anything I can do to nudge you? Gifts? Money? Whining?
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2013-12-23 05:12 (UTC) (Link)
Hmm. Well, if you're interested in reading something, I'll think about it.
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