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hobbit

Just got back from the midnight showing

Posted on 2012.12.14 at 04:03
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I just returned from seeing The Hobbit. Went with my daughter and her boyfriend. We got there an hour and one half before it started and it was a good thing we did since we still had to sit closer than I would have liked. I enjoyed it. It's a visual feast, had good qualities, and is certainly worth seeing, but it's not another LOTR. Not to worry, it's unlikely to make anyone sick or dizzy. It's 4:00 a.m. so I'll be brief and under a cut in case you don't want any spoilers.

It's wonderful to go back to Middle-earth. Omg, the scenery, just as one would expect. And Imladris, oh yes, so beautifully visualized, wanted much more there. The costumes are gorgeous. The elves are pictured as much more fey than they were in LOTR. But their appearance in all cases was breath-taking. Lindir (aka Figwit)even gets a part. Liked the humor,the acting, particularly Richard Armitage as Thorin. The CGI was incredible, especially the Bilbo/Gollum scene. It was very action-packed, almost too much so. Frenetic in parts. And I have a hard time with the increasing tendency of movies to have lots of gravity-defying, bouncy falls from great heights. I just hurt all over watching it. lol. I'm not sure I liked all the changes from the Hobbit or the addition of a nemesis for Thorin in the form of Azog. This seems even more like fanfic than LOTR was. It also had a cartoonish quality that was perhaps suited to The Hobbit, which is a children's book, but I miss the adult quality of LOTR. I felt somewhat unsatisfied by it and it wasn't just because it ended mid-quest, which we all know. I suspect the next two movies might be better. I have more to say but going to wait until tomorrow. We can all have a good discussion and thoroughly dissect it. But now I'm yawning to beat the band. Later.

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russandol
nelyo_russandol at 2012-12-14 11:08 (UTC) (Link)
I was hoping to go this morning, but Things Happened, so now I must wait until tomorrow afternoon when I'll go with the rest of my troop.

Thank you for the quick summary of your impressions. My expectations are already lower than for LOTR, anyway, and I've heard about the excessive CGI. Yay for Richard Armitage, him, Bilbo and Rivendell are what I'm looking forward to most.

I'm so glad you enjoyed it, that means I will, too!

ETA - I'm also hoping I'll get to see Dol Guldur.



Edited at 2012-12-14 11:09 am (UTC)
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-14 11:16 (UTC) (Link)
Hi there. Sorry you missed it this morning. You do get a look at Dol Guldur and it's pretty cool. I'll wait until you see it to discuss further.
leaf_light
leaf_light at 2012-12-14 11:21 (UTC) (Link)
I was thinking of you watching it today. I remain undecided about whether I'm going to bother, because - The Hobbit - bit of a shrine to my youth, and although the clips seem ok, and fanfic is a whole other genre, I really, truly detest films messing with my favourite books. I'm glad you enjoyed it though, and will look forward to your more detailed commentary later.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-14 11:27 (UTC) (Link)
Well, I did enjoy it. Might have to see it again to fully take it in. For me, it just didn't have that quality the Fellowship did when I first saw it. It definitely messed with the plot of The Hobbit, not drastically, but they changed a lot of details. And now I really am off to bed. Hugs.
Elleth
ladyelleth at 2012-12-14 12:11 (UTC) (Link)
Yes to most of that - interesting point about the fey Elves - I didn't have that impression with the Rivendell Elves at all, though certainly with the second glimpse we got of Thranduil (who I thought was so wonderful that I promptly choked on my drink), though they were certainly more bellicose. I'm suspecting part of that is preparation for the Battle of Dol Guldur, which might later appear implausible if Elrond were mostly there in a bureaucratic function again.

I didn't mind the threat of Azog very much, really - it added a sort of urgency to the quest that would have been lacking otherwise, and I can sort-of understand the reasoning behind it. Frodo and company had the Nazgul hard on their trail, later the Uruk-hai, and to have the Dwarves just plodding along with a minor intermezzo with the trolls might have been unsatisfying. Bolg might have made more sense (and I'm still wondering how he'll come in), but on the whole I'm not complaining, because the theme of past enemies and revenge is a pretty strong one (and really the point of the whole Smaug undertaking), so Azog fits right in, and I loved his design.

Agreeing on the cartoonish character of parts of the movie, though. It did feel different, and I didn't particularly like the Goblin town scenes... the Great Goblin was not nearly menacing enough, but I realize I may be carrying baggage from the animated version here (never thought I'd say that). And I have high hopes for the extended edition.

Sleep well! :)

elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-14 19:12 (UTC) (Link)
Hi elleth. Yeah, not only those brief and yes, wonderful, glimpses of Thranduil, but that initial surrounding of the dwarves by the elves in all their wonderful armor in Rivendell. I can understand the choice of the villain Azog. PJ and company did the same thing in LOTR with Lurtz and that cancer-faced fellow in RotK during the siege of Minas Tirith. It's a good point about the theme of enemies and revenge, but perhaps I miss having some enemies with depth. The Great Goblin was disgusting and way too big (how did he get so big?) I agree the whole Goblin town scenes, although amazingly visualized, struck me as more video game material than engaging story-telling.
kymahalei
kymahalei at 2012-12-14 14:42 (UTC) (Link)
Whew, I am so glad that it wasn't a total bust. Our local review rated it at one and a half stars. It may not be LOTR, but I doubt that it could have been that bad.
uncleftish beholding
oloriel at 2012-12-14 15:23 (UTC) (Link)
Quite honestly, in our local paper, they reviewed LotR - all of them - very lowly. There's still a pretty persistent "It's fantasy, so it's baaaad" attitude which has nothing to do with the actual quality of the movies!
spiced_wine
spiced_wine at 2012-12-14 15:16 (UTC) (Link)
I loved Erebor in the prologue, I adored the scenery. Imladris took my breath away. But I think Richard Armitage as Thorin sealed it for me. He was superb, as was Bilbo. I just am more attracted to the sort of character RA portrayed, so found myself more drawn to him.

I liked all the changes, myself (save the Goblin Town chase/fight, but those sort of things are not my thing - but Goblin Town itself was impressive!) and Azog, whom Thorin is bound to meet again, and the end; the eagles were magnificent against that scenery.

Also, Thranduil on an Elk - wonderful!

I'll be glad when I can watch the EE at my own pace, as there was a lot going on!)

Edited at 2012-12-14 03:17 pm (UTC)
Thranduil Oropherion Redux aka Randy
randy_o at 2012-12-14 16:55 (UTC) (Link)
Thranduil on an elk? Oh, crap.
Thranduil Oropherion Redux aka Randy
randy_o at 2012-12-14 16:52 (UTC) (Link)
Well, the book itself is more cartoonish and 'for children' in the first sections than it is by the end, so that wouldn't trouble me overly much.

It looks like I can save my money and wait for the DVD to be released.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-14 19:30 (UTC) (Link)
Oh heavens, go see it on the big screen. It's certainly a spectacle. What the hell. As I said, I didn't think it was as good as the Fellowship, but it was worth the price of a cup of coffee and a muffin at Starbucks.
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dawn_felagund
dawn_felagund at 2012-12-14 22:11 (UTC) (Link)
I loved the detail when the light from Bilbo's sword went out as the goblin died. I love the darkness in LotR (big surprise, I know), and I missed it in TH, but Gollum's scenes didn't disappoint in this regard or in the performances of Andy Serkis or Martin Freeman.

Agreed on the rationale re: the inclusion of Azog, but I think if they wanted to keep him, then they needed to pare down some of the other conflicts. One of my only complaints was the number of action scenes that all appeared entirely unrelated to each other. My bones ached by the end of it.
dawn_felagund
dawn_felagund at 2012-12-14 22:07 (UTC) (Link)
You said a lot of the same things in your review that I did in mine. (You were much more succinct though! :D) I was dealing with some pain issues last night, and watching the falls made me think, "OMFG. I wouldn't be able to walk after that. For at least three weeks, if ever again."

Azog also felt superfluous to me. I'm sure they probably added him to have a sustained conflict of a more personal nature than Dragon vs. The Entirety of the Dwarves of Erebor and Men of Esgaroth, but with all of the action scenes in the movie--which lacked the coherence of LotR, at least at this point--it felt unnecessary.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-15 02:12 (UTC) (Link)
I'd forgotten that it was Azog's son Bolg who leads the orcs in the Battle of Five Armies, so this now makes more sense. They are replacing Bolg with Azog and carrying through that grudge so that the goblins showing up is more than just about gold, it's about revenge. Okay, I'll buy it.
Laurelin (who wants to be a spatula)
pilgrimskiss at 2012-12-15 22:22 (UTC) (Link)
I just saw it too! And some of your comments describe my own impressions perfectly, but I need to let it all sink in, and possibly see the film a couple more times. :) But yes, it did feel different from LOTR. 'Cartoonish' probably sums it up perfectly.

Positives: I thought Thorin was wonderfully intense, his was one of the best performances. The glimpse of Thranduil left me wanting more, even though I'm not sold on the elk. *g* And it was lovely seeing all those familiar faces again.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-16 04:40 (UTC) (Link)
It was good to go back to Middle-earth. Even if I objected to aspects of the movie, it was still fun. I'll go see it again.
engarian
engarian at 2012-12-17 00:46 (UTC) (Link)
I'm finally catching up on some of the posts that I missed while I was jerking my schedule around to catch the midnight opening showing of Hobbit. And I must say, I loved it. Oh...not that all parts of it met with my 100% approval - no way Jose...more that being back in Middle-earth, seeing Imladris and The Shire again, and those wonderful dwarves and Gollum....omgomgomgomgomg...Gollum.

So, reading your post it seems that both of us ended up quite satisfied with our late/early reintroduction to PJ's Middle-earth :-)*hugs*

- Erulisse (one L)
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-17 08:41 (UTC) (Link)
Glad you enjoyed it too 1L. It was kinda fun to do the midnight showing, even if I've been off my schedule ever since.
amalc at 2012-12-17 01:11 (UTC) (Link)
Glad to read your review as I was curious to hear about your reaction to it. I haven't seen it yet but it has had very mixed reviews - everything from a 1.5 to a 5 - so I guess this movie is not universally liked. One thing lots of reviewers complained about was the fact that it felt overlong and it had a lot of long, boring, needless scenes which they all put down to PJ's desire to make another trilogy and make pots of money. Sad that....

I will be going to see it, preferably at the movies but my my expectations have been somewhat lowered.

Hope you are coping, dear friend.

Many hugs,

A.
elfscribe5
elfscribe5 at 2012-12-17 08:44 (UTC) (Link)
Hi Amalc. Very good to see you pop up. I don't know what the deal is with the reviewers although my feelings are mixed too, but "long, boring scenes" is not one of my complaints. Heck if there had been any more action in this flick, it would have been unwatchable. I'd have preferred less cartoonish flying about and more characterization and meaty dialogue.
Hope you enjoy it.
I'm coping okay, but it's very hard. Every day is hard.
Hugs back.
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